TWO VIEWS ON SIX IMAMS
US Airways went too far, says one righteous dude. They really treated these guys like manure. Once they investigated them and their luggage, discovering that they didn't have any bombs or other dangerous contraband, they should have apologetically placed them on the next flight to their location and seated them in first class.
Sadly, US Airways has no class. Or so say this same righteous dude.
He admits that he doesn't have any problem with these six Imams being interrogated and investigated, but the airline should conduct its business of security with the utmost civility and respect. In other words—don't punish them for simply being Muslim, or inconsiderate to their fellow passengers or the airlines.
Righteous dude surmizes that the airlines will probably be sued for racial and religious discrimination, and will sadly have to pay up because the "Holy Men" were not allowed to take any flight, even after a full investigation.
Sorry Charlie. There's another viewpoint.
One Muslim apologist is quoted as saying "If up to now they (meaning the general public and the airlines) don't know about prayers, this is a real problem."
Another righteous fellow named Mark explains his own insight when he suggests that the previous quote clarifies the entire incident. He writes,
"When I fly, to Israel, and the religious folks pray, ten at a time, everyone's polite with apologies if they're doing it in the context of others. In other words, the normal bounds of manners apply. The doers owe those not doing the manners to explain or apologize if their words or bodies in any way impede those not doing. Thus, they are 'accepted' even by those who don't believe in any of that.
But this is not the case. Instead we hear a sarcastic—If they don't know about prayers—remark, in what has become the normal response of Muslims. We are here, this is our culture, deal with it. We are superior beings (except when we are victims), we are holier than thou. Frankly, in my opinion, that's the root of it all.
More than likely all the Muslim imams they had to do, was smile, saying to those in their seats next to where they were praying "excuse us, please, we do our prayers, and we don't mean any intrusion" or the like. Simple manners, politely telling people, who have been threatened with airline hijackings, beheadings, and mutilation on a worldwide basis, that they—the Muslims—merely wish to pray, mean no harm, and in short, announce themselves as polite, normal decent folks.
They of course were arrogant, and refused to explain to the stewardesses and fellow passengers what they were doing. Thus they were giving off the usual muslim vibe of 'Screw you infidel.'
Which explains why they got tossed. This is also why the airlines refused to book them elsewhere. In a nervous interview with the media circus surrounding this event, the Muslim apologist announced there were over 200 iMams in the airport at the time since they had all gone to and were returning from the same religious conference. "Surely," he noted "the airlines should have known what was going on." He meant simple prayers were going on. But this admission can have another interpretation. If over 200 iMams made their flights back why did only six get treated to the boot. Perhaps the attitude of the individual "holy men" in question might explain the airline's behavor.
Concerning public prayers, and this goes for all those self-enamored Christian evangelicals among us as well, let's see what Jesus of Nazareth had to say:
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Matthew 6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
Ah, the air is much better now. Too bad few people believe these very decent words to the wise. Bottom line, Muslim passengers have been flying for years. Why now, this outrage in a long string of Muslim outrages? I'll tell you why. To rankle and buckle the system. To encroach further into the public eye always on the scan for a politically correct victim. To anybody with common sense this latest Muslim outrage is oblique non-sense, a calculated propaganda stunt.
This whole incident underscores the fact that many Muslims seem to feel no sense of accountability for all of the violence committed in the name of their religion. Here's another take I found from Hoosier Gal:
"A few days ago, I was reading a thread on the Big Pharoah blog, in which he questioned why non-Muslims object to the phrase "Allahu Akbar", since all believers of every faith believe that God is great. Several people set him straight: 'Allahu Akbar' are the last words that an infidel hears before a Muslim kills him. If you hear it on a plane, it's the equivalent of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater—it will create panic. It is a war cry. Abruptly standing up and reciting Muslim prayers on a plane has an identical effect on people. These Imams need to get a clue. If you want to stay out of trouble, don't "go all Islamic" when you're on a plane!"
Very interesting concept. While America is busy policing religion out of every public arena great and small, and has gone on record stating the yelling fire in a crowded theatre is NOT constitutionally protected speech, it seems highly logical that screaming a recognizable war cry on a Western airplane would also be outlawed.
America is beginning to wake up to these dangers. The dhimmi Left will continue to support as strong allies almost anything the Muslims try to pull until the real hurt begins to be felt, such as a nuclear blast on American soil, and perhaps even then will find a way to embrace their won worst enemy, but I am occasionally surprized at how interested and informed middle America is becoming while the leftist street boondoggle remains comfortably numb with its denial of the dangers that await America, Israel, and Europe, in the form of jihadist and their so-called "moderate" Islam rearguard.
Sadly, US Airways has no class. Or so say this same righteous dude.
He admits that he doesn't have any problem with these six Imams being interrogated and investigated, but the airline should conduct its business of security with the utmost civility and respect. In other words—don't punish them for simply being Muslim, or inconsiderate to their fellow passengers or the airlines.
Righteous dude surmizes that the airlines will probably be sued for racial and religious discrimination, and will sadly have to pay up because the "Holy Men" were not allowed to take any flight, even after a full investigation.
Sorry Charlie. There's another viewpoint.
One Muslim apologist is quoted as saying "If up to now they (meaning the general public and the airlines) don't know about prayers, this is a real problem."
Another righteous fellow named Mark explains his own insight when he suggests that the previous quote clarifies the entire incident. He writes,
"When I fly, to Israel, and the religious folks pray, ten at a time, everyone's polite with apologies if they're doing it in the context of others. In other words, the normal bounds of manners apply. The doers owe those not doing the manners to explain or apologize if their words or bodies in any way impede those not doing. Thus, they are 'accepted' even by those who don't believe in any of that.
But this is not the case. Instead we hear a sarcastic—If they don't know about prayers—remark, in what has become the normal response of Muslims. We are here, this is our culture, deal with it. We are superior beings (except when we are victims), we are holier than thou. Frankly, in my opinion, that's the root of it all.
More than likely all the Muslim imams they had to do, was smile, saying to those in their seats next to where they were praying "excuse us, please, we do our prayers, and we don't mean any intrusion" or the like. Simple manners, politely telling people, who have been threatened with airline hijackings, beheadings, and mutilation on a worldwide basis, that they—the Muslims—merely wish to pray, mean no harm, and in short, announce themselves as polite, normal decent folks.
They of course were arrogant, and refused to explain to the stewardesses and fellow passengers what they were doing. Thus they were giving off the usual muslim vibe of 'Screw you infidel.'
Which explains why they got tossed. This is also why the airlines refused to book them elsewhere. In a nervous interview with the media circus surrounding this event, the Muslim apologist announced there were over 200 iMams in the airport at the time since they had all gone to and were returning from the same religious conference. "Surely," he noted "the airlines should have known what was going on." He meant simple prayers were going on. But this admission can have another interpretation. If over 200 iMams made their flights back why did only six get treated to the boot. Perhaps the attitude of the individual "holy men" in question might explain the airline's behavor.
Concerning public prayers, and this goes for all those self-enamored Christian evangelicals among us as well, let's see what Jesus of Nazareth had to say:
Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Matthew 6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
Ah, the air is much better now. Too bad few people believe these very decent words to the wise. Bottom line, Muslim passengers have been flying for years. Why now, this outrage in a long string of Muslim outrages? I'll tell you why. To rankle and buckle the system. To encroach further into the public eye always on the scan for a politically correct victim. To anybody with common sense this latest Muslim outrage is oblique non-sense, a calculated propaganda stunt.
This whole incident underscores the fact that many Muslims seem to feel no sense of accountability for all of the violence committed in the name of their religion. Here's another take I found from Hoosier Gal:
"A few days ago, I was reading a thread on the Big Pharoah blog, in which he questioned why non-Muslims object to the phrase "Allahu Akbar", since all believers of every faith believe that God is great. Several people set him straight: 'Allahu Akbar' are the last words that an infidel hears before a Muslim kills him. If you hear it on a plane, it's the equivalent of yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater—it will create panic. It is a war cry. Abruptly standing up and reciting Muslim prayers on a plane has an identical effect on people. These Imams need to get a clue. If you want to stay out of trouble, don't "go all Islamic" when you're on a plane!"
Very interesting concept. While America is busy policing religion out of every public arena great and small, and has gone on record stating the yelling fire in a crowded theatre is NOT constitutionally protected speech, it seems highly logical that screaming a recognizable war cry on a Western airplane would also be outlawed.
America is beginning to wake up to these dangers. The dhimmi Left will continue to support as strong allies almost anything the Muslims try to pull until the real hurt begins to be felt, such as a nuclear blast on American soil, and perhaps even then will find a way to embrace their won worst enemy, but I am occasionally surprized at how interested and informed middle America is becoming while the leftist street boondoggle remains comfortably numb with its denial of the dangers that await America, Israel, and Europe, in the form of jihadist and their so-called "moderate" Islam rearguard.
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